In June 2013 the Telegraph's Andrew Gilligan exposed Fiyaz Mughal and his organizations here http://www.telegraph.co.uk/journalists/andrew-gilligan/10108098/Muslim-hate-monitor-to-lose-backing.html where he also pointed out that they lost their government funding due to their exaggerations and manipulation of report figures, making it look as if Muslims were being victimized after some of their own "brothers" murdered an English soldier in cold blood in plain daylight, in the streets of London.
The Telegraph states:
"The project, called Tell Mama, claimed that there had been a “sustained wave of attacks and intimidation” against British Muslims after the killing of Drummer Lee Rigby, with 193 “Islamophobic incidents” reported to it, rising to 212 by last weekend."
The report shows that these claims were highly exaggerated, and this only means that whoever is behind these organizations are the ones doing so for a reason. And of course, since Fiyaz Mughal owns these groups, it is fair to say that he is the one behind all of this.
The Telegraph also said:
"Tell Mama and Mr Mughal did not mention, however, that 57 per cent of the
There is plenty of room to believe this is a clear case of dishonesty.
The Telegraph has added:
"Tell Mama has also been using its budget to threaten members of the public with libel actions for criticising it on Twitter.
In mid-May, before Woolwich, one Jewish activist, Ambrosine Chetrit, received a threatening letter from solicitors after she tweeted that “Tell Mama are sitting on Twitter on the EDL hashtag, threatening anyone and everyone whose comments they do not like about Islam”.
Tell Mama also objected to a tweet in which Ms Chetrit said it was “trying to close down pro-Israel [Twitter] accounts daily”.
Other recipients of legal threats at the same time include Atma Singh, a former race adviser to the then Labour mayor of London, Ken Livingstone, who received a legal letter from Tell Mama after tweeting that it “gives a platform to Islamists”.
Tell Mama did not claim that either of these individuals was racist or anti-Muslim. But it said their tweets were false and “defamatory” of Mr Mughal, had “damaged” his reputation, causing him “distress and embarrassment”, and demanded immediate apologies and damages. Up to four other people are believed to have received similar threats."
Now, take note of this:
"The letters were written by Farooq Bajwa, a solicitor who has acted for a number of Islamists and Islamist sympathisers, including the Palestinian radical leader Raed Salah and the Respect MP George Galloway.
The letters to Mr Singh and Ms Chetrit were sent to their private home addresses, neither of which are in the public domain. Ms Chetrit’s lawyer, Mark Lewis, who has acted for many phone-hacking victims, has reported Mr Bajwa and Tell Mama to the police after they refused to say how they obtained the information. "
“I have been instructed to resist the claim,” said Mr Lewis. “It has no merit. I have not had any response as to how my client’s name and address were obtained.”
Mr Singh said: “I find it absurd that someone can threaten people on this kind of basis and use libel in this political way. This is nothing to do with Islamophobia – they are just trying to shut down debate.”
Ms Chetrit said: “It is very worrying and scary. All the people who have been threatened by Tell Mama are pro-Israel.”
Here we have accounts of several people whom Mughal, through his organization Tell Mama, has tried to sue for libel and defamation. If it's not that, it is something else like "racial aggravated harassment", as he is now trying to do to Mr. Tim Burton from Liberty GB, as we see reported here at Farenheit211:
The article also states:
"The ironic thing about this arrest is that by harassing Mr Burton, all Tell Mama have done is highlight just why they are a problematical organisation. It has also made those of us who take an interest in the activities of Tell Mama more determined to expose them for what they are, which is a bunch of grievance-mongering taqiyya-artists."
We in the JDL also share the same opinions as the individuals above. We note with some kind of flattery that Fiyaz Mughal has been quite active in his attacks towards our group, and it seems that he has also engaged several Jew haters to help him.
He claims to have reported us to the police for a post on our facebook page where it states "The Prophet of Islam and Muslims, is a ‘filthy desert rat.’"
While we recognize that this may be somewhat offensive to some Muslims, it is not a crime to criticize a dead man who we believe is not a prophet, or his actions, let alone a leader of any religion. If such was to be the case, then anyone who criticized Jesus or Moses or even Hitler in such manner would be tried for alleged "hate speech".
The things attributed to Muhammad from the Quran and Hadiths - both Islamic books - show him to be a despicable evil man. And there is no hiding it.
They also complain of other posts where members of the Knesset in Israel are referred to as "monkeys", and a few others which are nothing but a show of our disgust with these people's behaviour.
It seems quite clear that Mr. Mughal is fixated in a very obsessive manner, in trying to silence any and all criticism of Islam, Muslims, Arab members of the Knesset, and even of the president of the United States. (Surely not because they are Muslims, right?)
The pattern is crystal clear. He has never complained when similar words were used towards Jews before, but this time he has decided to complain also about calling the prime minister of Israel as a kapo.
I am sure that if Mr. Netanyahu wanted to complain about us calling him a kapo, he would have done so many times over already, as we have messaged him several times calling him precisely that.
We have a saying: "...if the hat fits..."
A comment posted on another website states:
"Tell Mama claims that it also records attacks by Muslims on other Muslims.
Here's a bit of a conundrum for them.
The 2 most violent attacks on Muslims since Tell Mama was created.... were both by other Muslims!
If Tell Mama had not already been totally discredited, this would have done so. Now these attacks need to be brought out whenever Fiyaz Mughal rears his ugly head.
Here's another thought: Is Tell Mama recording "honour killings" among its attacks on Muslims? I'll bet not."
We'll let the reader ponder on this.
Mughal's new "Working definition of anti-Muslim prejudice".
Fiyaz Mughal of TellMama has created a new working definition of anti-Muslim prejudice. Since he probably believed the original one did not cover fully his agenda, he decided to add a few more points to it.
This new definition seems to be slightly based on the CST's definition of anti-Semitism, which is a far more serious subject, taking into consideration that Jews were, and are still being systematically murdered by Nazis and Nazi Muslims in Islamic countries.
The difference between these two however is that Jews have never strapped bombs to themselves and set out to explode bus loads full of women and children. Jews have not creeped in the middle of the night to gun down sleeping families and babies (Fogel family murder), Jews have not destroyed 3,000 year old Buddhist statues, Jews do not go to the streets in midday to behead "infidels" of Judaism, Jews do not murder their wives, sisters or daughters in honour killings, Jews are not trying to impose any equivalent of sharia law in anyone's countries, Jews have not systematically murdered Christians, Buddhists, Ahmadis, Muslims or any other people, Jews have not desecrated anyone's holy places and built synagogues on top of them, Jews do not have "prophets" who raped little girls, or murdered people who have criticized them, Jews do not try to silence criticisms or debates, Jews do not lash or murder people for being gay or adulterers, and the list goes on...
Hate towards Jews seem somewhat extremely misplaced in a world where Jews are by far the highest earners of Nobel Prizes, the creators of the highest and most accurate life saving technologies, and many other things.
Jews do not wish to Judaize the world, or even any lands, and Jews certainly will not kill another Jew if they wish to leave Judaism or not follow any longer.
These are opposites of what Muslims truly do.
Now, hate towards people who rape children, use them as human shields, murder their own wives, sisters and daughters, murder those who leave their cult (Quran demands the murder of apostates), murder innocents in the street in the name of their allah, is fully justified. In fact, if you did not hate those who did these things, one would think you approve of it.
We have a duty to hate evil and try to change people's minds.
Islam is against everything we believe to be holy. And many Muslims are being radicalized and committing horrendous crimes in the name of allah, just as the Quran tells them to do. These crimes are fully sanctioned by what they call "holy book" and as such we have a duty to expose what this cult is about.
Millions of people have already woken up to the fact that Islam is not a religion, and it's not a peaceful one either. Millions are now able to obtain free information online, as well as read the quran online, and they can see for themselves what Islam truly preaches.
Muslims like Fiyaz Mughal, his supporters and even those who have links with this man or his organizations, are deliberately ignoring Muslim crimes, ignoring racist crimes from Muslims towards non-Muslims and by attempting to threaten and intimidate us, are also trying to conceal these things.
We find such behaviour utterly abhorrent!
Here are some of the points Fiyaz Mughal has used to describe his own anti-Muslim prejudice version:
Our comments in red
1) Associating Muslims collectively to terrorism, extremism, terrorist attacks and murder.
When we speak about an issue, we must use collective statements. You cannot talk about Christians without saying Christians. Same goes for Muslims. And let's be candid, what other "religious" group has the habit of committing acts of terrorism, extremism, terrorist attacks and murder, as a collective?
Christians? Jews? Buddhists? NO. Muslims.
While these things can be carried out by anyone of any religion, they are by far more evident in the Islamic community, and they have reasons for their behaviour. It's called Jihad. Jihad is also a duty of all Muslims as per the quran.
If we are to listen to Mr Mughal and give any importance to the above point, then we must point out to him that his own Quran demands Muslims to carry out "Jihad". And what is Jihad if not terrorizing and murdering "infidels"?
Furthermore, if he does not want such words to be associated with Muslims or Islam, it's simple. All he has to do is some "interfaith dialogue or community cohesion work" with al-qaeda, Hamas, Fatah, al-shabab, Janjaweed, Rohyngas, Taliban, etc.. and ask THEM to stop committing such atrocious acts of terrorism, murders, rape, mutilations, animal abuse, child abuse, and all sorts of extremist acts against the innocent people of the world, whom they bully with their "jihadist" behaviour. You cannot disassociate the actor from the action.
If Muslims don't want to be associated with terrorism, then they must CEASE to perform terrorist acts. Simple, no?
2) Promoting rhetoric that states that social, political, economic and spiritual rights for Muslims should be less than members of other faith communities. This also includes stating that Muslims should be collectively punished by a reduction of their civil rights and liberties, as though they bear the burden due the actions of a handful of individuals from Muslim communities.
The rights of a minority must not supersede the rights of a majority of indigenous people in this country. This is not the same as saying minorities have no rights. Muslims however are using their "minority" status to bully and harass British politicians into giving them far more rights and privileges which are not equally given to the majority of the British people.
Islam is not a "religion" indigenous to these lands. Muslims are not indigenous people in this land. Given that many have now been born here, legally or illegally, it is not the same as saying their beliefs are compatible with the Judeo-Christian way of thinking, and which our laws are based.
Those who profess to follow Islam, adhere to the specific set of rules and ideology that is stated in the Quran, which is by nature the opposite of what we consider virtuous, true or holy.
Muslims do not consider non-Muslims as equals. Muslims persecute, rape and murder non-Muslims all over the world, and have also invented corrupted "blasphemy laws" to persecute and kill even more people. This is not a minority of people. There are billions of Muslims in the world. Billions of individuals who believe it is acceptable to rape little girls, forcefully marry them, murder adulterers and so on and so forth.
Fiyaz Mughal's attempt to play down the number of Muslims who commit atrocious acts, calling it a "handful" is a huge insult to our intelligence. It's taqqiya.
3) Associating Muslims to terms that portray them as being dangerous, untruthful, deceitful, devious and untrustworthy, through to the association with organisms that cause death, decay and disease.
In Islam there is a thing called Taqqiya which means deceit. Muslims are encouraged to do taqqiya, i.e. be deceitful, dishonest and false towards non-Muslims, in order to obtain what they wish.
Here is an article that provides more information on the art of taqqiya within Islam - straight from the Quran. http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/011-taqiyya.htm
Again, that point is totally irrelevant, for the Quran itself, which is an Islamic book, allows and encourages Muslims do be deceitful, i.e. to perform taqqiya. Taqqiya is allowed and encouraged in order for Muslims to save their skins, or to obtain something they desire, without exposing their true agenda. This is the meaning of it.
4) - Linking Muslims with the take-over of the United Kingdom or a global take-over and to the ‘infiltration’ of institutions with a view to meeting these ‘hidden’ objectives.
Another point which fails to impress. There have been thousands of articles, documentaries and materials done that show alarming evidence of Muslims intentions to take over the world and their infiltration in several important and powerful government positions. This started all the way back from the time of Muhammad and goes on to this day. All one has to do is study history to find out how lands such as Turkey, Egypt, Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, Nigeria, Sudan, Algeria, etc have become Arabized and Islamized.
Those conquests were not peaceful, but bloody, and accompanied by slavery and dhimmitude towards non-Muslims. In addition to that, misogyny, gender segregation, injustice, and apartheid also followed.
We are also seeing in our contemporaneous history how parts of Norway, Sweden, France and even Britain have fallen into Muslim hands, and worse, with the help of our governments. Therefore the above point is not a point of prejudice but a serious threat to our lands. It is a point that must be discussed amongst all peoples and not viewed as anti-Muslim prejudice, because it isn't.
As for the infiltration business, we have this evidence that the West Midlands Police is being "trained" by grievance mongering individuals from tell mama. And here is more evidence from the West Midlands Police website itself, idiotically promoting this group and exposing their betrayal towards the British public that pays their wages. Instead of policing the streets with the laws of this country, they are taking lessons in "diversity" thus allowing Islamization to flow free from criticism.
5) Denying the scope and the intentionality towards genocide which led to the targeted killings of Muslims in places like Bosnia and which took place at the hands of Serb paramilitary forces in the former Yugoslavia.
It seems that Mughal is seriously attempting to claim that speaking the truth about what happened in the former Yugoslavia war is a point of anti-Muslim prejudice. Most people who know History and know how the Yugoslavia war came to be, know that it was a war of deception and Islamization, just like many other Jihadist Islamic wars.
For the true account of Muslim crimes in Srebrenica and former Yugoslavia, please see here: http://www.jdl-uk.org/2012/05/ratko-mladic-and-serbia-on-put-trial.html
There is also a documentary done on the issue which you can view here, and where the people of Srebrenica speak for themselves. Srebrenica - Izdani grad (A town betrayed).
In fact, people linked to Fiyaz Mughal's tell mama organizations have been known to spend many many hours on twitter, harassing Jews and people who support Israel. Fiyaz Mughal was also responsible for harassing the Home Office into banning Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer from entering the UK because of their pro-Israel views!
See the true account of it here http://dailycaller.com/2013/12/01/documents-reveal-british-banned-geller-and-spencer-because-of-their-pro-israeli-views/
Threatening Twitter with Legal Action if they don't remove posts that offend Muslims.
Mr. Mughal is so sure of himself that despite his failures in suing people and organizations, he has now taken another intimidation stance towards Twitter.
He has posted an article on his website in regards to Twitter being used as a platform for hate - and that regretfully includes hate posts from Tellmama supporters - where they even threaten Twitter with "legal action" using these words:
"Time will only tell whether Twitter takes the mantle in ensuring that accounts which consistently promote hate are closed. If they are not, it is a matter of time before legal action is taken against the social media platform."
In case the reader is not aware, Mr. Mughal wants Twitter not only to close accounts of people who criticize him, or criticize Islam and/or Muslims, but he also wants Twitter to disclose private details of these people to him, so that he can continue his bullying and harassment by sending letters to their home address, threatening them with legal action.
By the same reasoning, shouldn't we be demanding Twitter to disclose who are all the people behind the TellMamaUK's account too?
On that article he mentions Imran Awan. Now this Imran Awan from Birmingham City University they refer to was also on LBC one morning a couple of weeks ago, speaking with Nick Ferrari and it was refreshing to see that Ferrari made it obvious he was having none of his taqqiya.
We would also like to remind people that Mr. Mughal has written for websites such as the Islamist Muslim Brotherhood-terrorist-linked Cordoba Foundation,See page 134 - "A minority within a minority converts to Islam" and also the anti-Zionist MPACUK where he indirectly blames British people for the 7/7 bombing which was carried out by Muslims, not Brits. On the MPACUK article all that Mughal is concerned with is the impact of Muslim terrorist acts on "community cohesion".
It's disgraceful! Not a single word in sympathy for the dead or injured, even though there were Muslims among them.
Here is a snapshot of how Tellmama spends its time online, harassing people and targeting them for talking to people they do not approve of.
Tell mama harasses a lady called Anne for talking to another lady called Queen Lareefer.
Here is another of tellmama joining a conversation Queen Lareefer did not even tag them on. More harassment, and just because QF mentioned "the prophet".
Just to make the point clear, here is Sahmeera Ali DENYING that Muhammad married a 6 year old child and consumated (raped her) his marriage when she was 9 years of age. This is pure taqqiya. And then saying to tellmama "You can't fix stupid, but as Muslims we have to try".
Isn't this comment "as Muslims" an attempt to show superiority to non-Muslims? And yet on the snapshot above she complains about "people who believe that they are a superior race".
This is not just sheer hypocrisy, but a tremendous failure in her ability to recognize her own actions as the actions she is complaining about.
She is right. You cannot fix stupid.
These are people linked to tellmama, hence their bullish and intimidating behaviour towards those who disagree and challenge them.
And again... more harassment. Deliberately spamming and tagging 'Queen Lareefer' and calling her "Maddy". Could such bullish harassment and the use of "Maddy" be a stealth insinuation to show QF that they know her? Oh yes and of course, Tellmama has also outrageously objected to QF using the word "natives" to describe erm.. the NATIVE English population in England.
Apparently it offends Muslims if the native people of this country refer to themselves as natives. Is there anything that does not offend such wimps?
This one shows TellMama bitching about the EDL coordinating a mosque planning application objection.
This is how pathetic this group is. We believe that it is the right of the indigenous people in Britain to coordinate any planning application they want. We don't need more mosques in this country. There are thousands of them already, and many built in places where there aren't many Muslims anyway. But this is how Islamization starts. They build a mosque, then they bring the Islamic population in. Therefore such mosque planning applications should be objected to. Furthermore it is not a crime to object to them.
We do not see Tellmama objecting that there are no churches or synagogues in Saudi Arabia. Talk about utter hypocrisy!
And finally here is a blog of another user who is complaining of harassment from this tellmama group: Ima watchin yu lil gyal.
Update: She has a collection of tweets sent to her by people linked to tellmama - one of them an irritating old bag called "Nemesis Republic" - real name Evelyn Cook. It is believed Evelyn is one of the people sitting on tell mama's twitter account.
Then she mentions Jason Schulmann, an extremely nasty individual who hides behind several profiles, such as "culturedebating", then Efemico, then Alixir... and several others.
We paste below some of her comments from the blog. Pay attention to what she says.
"There's one thing ALL these profiles and more abusers who aren't named have in common is that they affiliate with a charity, tell mama, it's a anti hate charity, helping to combat and monitor hatred towards Muslims, it's suspicious though that numerous accounts who affiliate with Tell mama are known to instigate arguments and abuse to get abuse back to give to tellmama, apparently the charity helps everyone who is getting hate (laughs hysterically) unless you are blocked it seems "
She also goes on to show tweets from tell mama encouraging hate. After some user called Petra Pahlavi abused the writer of the blog, Victoria, tellmama immediately says: "Respect Petra. Respect to you ".
Such hate, harassment and intimidation cannot go unnoticed.
It makes absolutely no impact whatsoever the fact that tellmama posts silly messages pretending to be concerned about anti-semitism when in reality they and their supporters go around posting things which are the very opposite.
What a shame that Mr. Mughal did not make the right choices when he opened his groups. He could have done so much, such as speak in mosques and educate Muslims against terrorism, segregation and racism.
He could have tried to de-radicalize Muslims who are hell-bent in killing non-Muslims and in attacking our British troops in the streets of London.
He could also have set up an organization to help Muslim girls who are forced to have FGM performed on them, or forced to marry, or are trying to escape from a violent marriage, or a violent home life.
These actions would indeed help the Muslim community greatly. Imagine what a saint Mr. Mughal would be if he indeed considered doing these things!
Instead unfortunately Mr. Mughal prefers to ignore these "tiny" internal problems, which regretfully affect the Islamic community in much higher proportions than any other, and focus on those who defend Israel from attacks and criticize the hate, racism, terrorism and all sorts of abuse and injustice that sprouts from the Islamic world and spills onto our own countries.
This is an attempt to silence criticism. This is an infringement of our rights, of freedom of speech and freedom of criticism. The state cannot claim to own your own consciousness.
Indeed the social media is littered with Nazis, and other abusers but we do not waste our time and efforts targeting every single one of them, or locating them in order to sue them for offensive tweets or comments.
We might not like this but everyone has the right to offend, criticize, swear, etc at one another. Everyone has the right to his own opinion irrespectively if you like it or not. There are many things which are incredibly offensive and hurtful out there, but that is life, and we must all learn to accept that and grow a thick skin. In reality, those who cry like babies about every single little insult are wimps.
The world is full of low lives, full of haters, full of violence. There is no way that we would ever rid the world of all of them. All we can do is take action when their own words become their actions.
On the other hand, the world is also full of love and people who want to help one another. There must always be a balance.
Let it be known that anti-Zionism IS anti-Semitism. ZION is JERUSALEM.
"...If I forget thee, O Jerusalem, let my right hand forget her cunning. If I do not remember thee, let my tongue cleave to the roof of my mouth; if I prefer not Jerusalem above my chief joy. Remember, O Lord, the children of Edom in the day of Jerusalem; who said, Raze it, raze it, even to the foundation thereof; O daughter of Babylon, that art to be destroyed; happy shall he be, that repayeth thee as thou hast served us." (Psalms 137:3-8)
"The Lord doth build up Jerusalem: he gathereth together the outcast of Israel. Praise the Lord, O Jerusalem; praise thy God, O Tzion." (Psalms 147:2,12)"
"Anti-Zionism has become the most dangerous and effective form of anti- Semitism in our time, through its systematic delegitimization, defamation, and demonization of Israel. Although not a priori anti-Semitic, the calls to dismantle the Jewish state, whether they come from Muslims, the Left, or the radical Right, increasingly rely on an anti-Semitic stereotypization of classic themes, such as the manipulative "Jewish lobby," the Jewish/Zionist "world conspiracy," and Jewish/Israeli "warmongers." One major driving force of this anti-Zionism/anti-Semitism is the transformation of the Palestinian cause into a "holy war"; another source is anti-Americanism linked with fundamentalist Islamism. In the current context, classic conspiracy theories, such as the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, are enjoying a spectacular revival. The common denominator of the new anti-Zionism has been the systematic effort to criminalize Israeli and Jewish behavior, so as to place it beyond the pale of civilized and acceptable conduct."